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September 4 - St Rose of Viterbo
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unknown
2005-09-04 00:37:47 UTC
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Saint Rose of Viterbo (1234-1252), a poor peasant girl, had a vision
at the age of eight which changed her life. At the age of twelve she
preached to those in the streets. Rose made enemies, however, by
supporting the pope and encouraging the Guelphs to drive out the
Ghibellines. She also admonished followers of Frederick II about their
conduct. Exiled to Soriano at the age of sixteen, she continued to
speak out against perceived evils. She predicted Frederick's death
which came a few days after her prophecy. Rose attempted to enter
religious life but a convent at Viterbo would not accept her without a
dowry. These same sisters forced her to leave the house and chapel
adjacent to their convent so Rose went home to Viterbo. She died there
at the age of seventeen and was canonized on this date in 1457.

Robert Ellsberg mentions Albert Schweitzer (1875-1965) as his person
of the day. Born in Alsace, between France and Germany, Albert
received an excellent education. Though an exceptional scholar,
pastoral contact with people as a minister always remained a strong
part of his life. In Ellsberg's words, "through his book Quest of the
Historical Jesus (1905), he emerged as one of the foundational figures
of twentieth-century theology." Schweitzer, also an outstanding
organist, became an authority on J. S. Bach and wrote a modern edition
of his works along with a voluminous study of the German composer. As
though this were not enough, Albert felt called to go to Africa as a
doctor in response to a plea for medical aid found in a missionary
magazine. He persuaded his fiancee to accompany him but to do so he
first had to earn a medical degree. After earning his degree with a
specialty in tropical illnesses, he approached the Paris Missionary
Society. However, the Society rejected his application, fearing the
content of his theology. Schweitzer raised his own money and again
came before the Society which finally agreed to accept him if he
confined his activities to medicine and stayed away from teaching
Sunday school classes.

Schweitzer and wife arrived at Lambarene, an outpost in French
equatorial Africa, and began building a hospital. True to African
customs, he provided for the families of those receiving treatment by
giving them a space to stay and allowing them to wander about at will,
along with various animals. Ahead of his times he stressed the
sacredness of all of life and his writings and works reflect
"reverence for life." Albert also tried to "atone" for the sins of the
white Christians who had worked in Africa before him and who left a
legacy of European colonialism. His reputation grew and many visited
Lambarene in spite of the hardships of the journey. Schweitzer,
awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1958, received many honors throughout
his lifetime. He died at the age of ninety on this date in the
hospital which he had built.


Scripture
(New Revised Standard Version)


Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for by loving your
neighbor you have fulfilled the law. The commandments, "You shall not
commit adultery, You shall not kill, You shall not steal, You shall
not covet," and any other commandment, are summed up in this sentence,
"You shall love your neighbor as yourself." Love does no wrong to a
neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Romans 13:8-10


Jesus said to his followers: "If your sisters or brothers sin against
you, go and tell them their fault, between you and them alone. If they
listen to you, you have gained your brothers and sisters. But if they
do not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every word
may be confirmed by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If they
refuse to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to
listen even to the church, let them be to you as Gentiles and tax
collectors. Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be
bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in
heaven. Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about
anything you ask, it will be done for you by God in heaven. For where
two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of you."

Matthew 18:15-20



Quote of the Day
(Jean Vanier)


"To our community we bring our weaknesses; if we bring only our
strengths then we compete with one another."

This version taken from:
http://www.msb.net/Saint_of_the_day/9_4.htm
--
Regards
Gordie
Paul
2005-09-04 02:02:55 UTC
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Why give us all theses so called saints information. you know neither if
they made into heaven or went straight to hell, so why bother us with saint
BS? Idiot!
"The Nolalu Barn Owl"
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Saint Rose of Viterbo (1234-1252), a poor peasant girl, had a vision
at the age of eight which changed her life. At the age of twelve she
preached to those in the streets. Rose made enemies, however, by
supporting the pope and encouraging the Guelphs to drive out the
Ghibellines. She also admonished followers of Frederick II about their
conduct. Exiled to Soriano at the age of sixteen, she continued to
speak out against perceived evils. She predicted Frederick's death
which came a few days after her prophecy. Rose attempted to enter
religious life but a convent at Viterbo would not accept her without a
dowry. These same sisters forced her to leave the house and chapel
adjacent to their convent so Rose went home to Viterbo. She died there
at the age of seventeen and was canonized on this date in 1457.
Robert Ellsberg mentions Albert Schweitzer (1875-1965) as his person
of the day. Born in Alsace, between France and Germany, Albert
received an excellent education. Though an exceptional scholar,
pastoral contact with people as a minister always remained a strong
part of his life. In Ellsberg's words, "through his book Quest of the
Historical Jesus (1905), he emerged as one of the foundational figures
of twentieth-century theology." Schweitzer, also an outstanding
organist, became an authority on J. S. Bach and wrote a modern edition
of his works along with a voluminous study of the German composer. As
though this were not enough, Albert felt called to go to Africa as a
doctor in response to a plea for medical aid found in a missionary
magazine. He persuaded his fiancee to accompany him but to do so he
first had to earn a medical degree. After earning his degree with a
specialty in tropical illnesses, he approached the Paris Missionary
Society. However, the Society rejected his application, fearing the
content of his theology. Schweitzer raised his own money and again
came before the Society which finally agreed to accept him if he
confined his activities to medicine and stayed away from teaching
Sunday school classes.
Schweitzer and wife arrived at Lambarene, an outpost in French
equatorial Africa, and began building a hospital. True to African
customs, he provided for the families of those receiving treatment by
giving them a space to stay and allowing them to wander about at will,
along with various animals. Ahead of his times he stressed the
sacredness of all of life and his writings and works reflect
"reverence for life." Albert also tried to "atone" for the sins of the
white Christians who had worked in Africa before him and who left a
legacy of European colonialism. His reputation grew and many visited
Lambarene in spite of the hardships of the journey. Schweitzer,
awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1958, received many honors throughout
his lifetime. He died at the age of ninety on this date in the
hospital which he had built.
Scripture
(New Revised Standard Version)
Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for by loving your
neighbor you have fulfilled the law. The commandments, "You shall not
commit adultery, You shall not kill, You shall not steal, You shall
not covet," and any other commandment, are summed up in this sentence,
"You shall love your neighbor as yourself." Love does no wrong to a
neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
Romans 13:8-10
Jesus said to his followers: "If your sisters or brothers sin against
you, go and tell them their fault, between you and them alone. If they
listen to you, you have gained your brothers and sisters. But if they
do not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every word
may be confirmed by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If they
refuse to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to
listen even to the church, let them be to you as Gentiles and tax
collectors. Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be
bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in
heaven. Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about
anything you ask, it will be done for you by God in heaven. For where
two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of you."
Matthew 18:15-20
Quote of the Day
(Jean Vanier)
"To our community we bring our weaknesses; if we bring only our
strengths then we compete with one another."
http://www.msb.net/Saint_of_the_day/9_4.htm
--
Regards
Gordie
seeker
2005-09-04 17:34:31 UTC
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Gordie what do you think about the posting on 28/8 by
Zod ? According to you a devout Catholic is he wrong
about the JW's ? The POPE .
SEEKER

"The Nolalu Barn Owl"
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Post by unknown
Saint Rose of Viterbo (1234-1252), a poor peasant girl, had a vision
at the age of eight which changed her life. At the age of twelve she
preached to those in the streets. Rose made enemies, however, by
supporting the pope and encouraging the Guelphs to drive out the
Ghibellines. She also admonished followers of Frederick II about their
conduct. Exiled to Soriano at the age of sixteen, she continued to
speak out against perceived evils. She predicted Frederick's death
which came a few days after her prophecy. Rose attempted to enter
religious life but a convent at Viterbo would not accept her without a
dowry. These same sisters forced her to leave the house and chapel
adjacent to their convent so Rose went home to Viterbo. She died there
at the age of seventeen and was canonized on this date in 1457.
Robert Ellsberg mentions Albert Schweitzer (1875-1965) as his person
of the day. Born in Alsace, between France and Germany, Albert
received an excellent education. Though an exceptional scholar,
pastoral contact with people as a minister always remained a strong
part of his life. In Ellsberg's words, "through his book Quest of the
Historical Jesus (1905), he emerged as one of the foundational figures
of twentieth-century theology." Schweitzer, also an outstanding
organist, became an authority on J. S. Bach and wrote a modern edition
of his works along with a voluminous study of the German composer. As
though this were not enough, Albert felt called to go to Africa as a
doctor in response to a plea for medical aid found in a missionary
magazine. He persuaded his fiancee to accompany him but to do so he
first had to earn a medical degree. After earning his degree with a
specialty in tropical illnesses, he approached the Paris Missionary
Society. However, the Society rejected his application, fearing the
content of his theology. Schweitzer raised his own money and again
came before the Society which finally agreed to accept him if he
confined his activities to medicine and stayed away from teaching
Sunday school classes.
Schweitzer and wife arrived at Lambarene, an outpost in French
equatorial Africa, and began building a hospital. True to African
customs, he provided for the families of those receiving treatment by
giving them a space to stay and allowing them to wander about at will,
along with various animals. Ahead of his times he stressed the
sacredness of all of life and his writings and works reflect
"reverence for life." Albert also tried to "atone" for the sins of the
white Christians who had worked in Africa before him and who left a
legacy of European colonialism. His reputation grew and many visited
Lambarene in spite of the hardships of the journey. Schweitzer,
awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1958, received many honors throughout
his lifetime. He died at the age of ninety on this date in the
hospital which he had built.
Scripture
(New Revised Standard Version)
Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for by loving your
neighbor you have fulfilled the law. The commandments, "You shall not
commit adultery, You shall not kill, You shall not steal, You shall
not covet," and any other commandment, are summed up in this sentence,
"You shall love your neighbor as yourself." Love does no wrong to a
neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
Romans 13:8-10
Jesus said to his followers: "If your sisters or brothers sin against
you, go and tell them their fault, between you and them alone. If they
listen to you, you have gained your brothers and sisters. But if they
do not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every word
may be confirmed by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If they
refuse to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to
listen even to the church, let them be to you as Gentiles and tax
collectors. Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be
bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in
heaven. Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about
anything you ask, it will be done for you by God in heaven. For where
two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of you."
Matthew 18:15-20
Quote of the Day
(Jean Vanier)
"To our community we bring our weaknesses; if we bring only our
strengths then we compete with one another."
http://www.msb.net/Saint_of_the_day/9_4.htm
--
Regards
Gordie
unknown
2005-09-05 02:26:06 UTC
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Post by seeker
Gordie what do you think about the posting on 28/8 by
Zod ? According to you a devout Catholic is he wrong
about the JW's ? The POPE .
SEEKER
http://www.livejournal.com/users/senorwarrenv/
August 21, 2005

The Canberra Times
To Serve The National City And Through
it The Nation

[Canberra, Australia]

Pope Remembers Steffie
"But he's still just a naughty boy to me" say Cooma Cousin

By Markus Mannheim

He may be the spiritual head of the world's largest Christian church,
but a cousin of Pope Benedict the XVI says that he is still a naughty
boy to her.

Steffie Brzakovic, 78, of Cooma, received a call from her famous first
cousin shortly after his election in a papal conclave in April.

It was the first time she had heard from him in more than 50 years.

Mrs. Brzakovic, who was raised in the southern Germany city of
Weilheim before moving to Australia in 1956, said she remembered
Joseph Ratzinger as a young boy who was often up to no good.

"He was everywhere he shouldn't [have] been, she recalled yesterday,
shaking her head. "When I think today of what we did, it's a wonder
that [we are] alive."

When she received the phone call three months ago she first thought it
was a prank. It wasn't until His Holiness told her it was "Ratzinger
Pepi", referring to his childhood nickname, that she realized who was
on the other end.

"I said, 'Are you the Pope?' and he [replied]. 'But for you I am still
Ratzinger Pepi'."

Mrs. Brzakovic was raised as a Roman Catholic, but became a Jehovah's
Witness in the 1970's.

She said that while her religious differences with her family had
caused frustration, the Pope had encouraged her for following her
faith.

"He told me that 'You are doing the work that we should do'," she
said, referring to her church's missionary work. "He said, 'You have
halls that are not too big, but they are full. We have cathedrals,
churches, chapels and they are empty'."

Mrs. Brzakovic is spending this weekend at a Jehovah's Witness
convention in Canberra with about 3000 district worshippers.
--
Gordie

The truth is to be found nowhere else but in the Catholic Church, the
sole depository of apostolical doctrine. Heresies are of recent formation,
and cannot trace their origin up to the apostles.
- Irenaeus of Lyons (Against Heresies) 175-185 AD
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103304.htm
seeker
2005-09-05 17:46:07 UTC
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Truth not in any Church not even the Catholic Church.
"Your WORD (Bible) is TRUTH " John 17:17.
any teachings in contradictions to Bible truth are not TRUTH.
SEEKER

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Post by seeker
Gordie what do you think about the posting on 28/8 by
Zod ? According to you a devout Catholic is he wrong
about the JW's ? The POPE .
SEEKER
http://www.livejournal.com/users/senorwarrenv/
August 21, 2005
The Canberra Times
To Serve The National City And Through
it The Nation
[Canberra, Australia]
Pope Remembers Steffie
"But he's still just a naughty boy to me" say Cooma Cousin
By Markus Mannheim
He may be the spiritual head of the world's largest Christian church,
but a cousin of Pope Benedict the XVI says that he is still a naughty
boy to her.
Steffie Brzakovic, 78, of Cooma, received a call from her famous first
cousin shortly after his election in a papal conclave in April.
It was the first time she had heard from him in more than 50 years.
Mrs. Brzakovic, who was raised in the southern Germany city of
Weilheim before moving to Australia in 1956, said she remembered
Joseph Ratzinger as a young boy who was often up to no good.
"He was everywhere he shouldn't [have] been, she recalled yesterday,
shaking her head. "When I think today of what we did, it's a wonder
that [we are] alive."
When she received the phone call three months ago she first thought it
was a prank. It wasn't until His Holiness told her it was "Ratzinger
Pepi", referring to his childhood nickname, that she realized who was
on the other end.
"I said, 'Are you the Pope?' and he [replied]. 'But for you I am still
Ratzinger Pepi'."
Mrs. Brzakovic was raised as a Roman Catholic, but became a Jehovah's
Witness in the 1970's.
She said that while her religious differences with her family had
caused frustration, the Pope had encouraged her for following her
faith.
"He told me that 'You are doing the work that we should do'," she
said, referring to her church's missionary work. "He said, 'You have
halls that are not too big, but they are full. We have cathedrals,
churches, chapels and they are empty'."
Mrs. Brzakovic is spending this weekend at a Jehovah's Witness
convention in Canberra with about 3000 district worshippers.
--
Gordie
The truth is to be found nowhere else but in the Catholic Church, the
sole depository of apostolical doctrine. Heresies are of recent formation,
and cannot trace their origin up to the apostles.
- Irenaeus of Lyons (Against Heresies) 175-185 AD
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103304.htm
unknown
2005-09-05 23:22:16 UTC
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Post by seeker
Truth not in any Church not even the Catholic Church.
"Your WORD (Bible) is TRUTH " John 17:17.
any teachings in contradictions to Bible truth are not TRUTH.
SEEKER
There WAS no Bible when this was penned.
--
Gordie

'It is very clear from the New Testament that all the leaders of the Church were ordained
by the laying on of hands (e.g., Acts 6:6; 8:17; 13:3; 1 Tim 5:22, etc.).'
ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, AND APOSTOLIC
The Early Church Was the Catholic Church, Page 125
by Kenneth D. Whitehead
Ignatious Press
ISBN 0898708028

Was the very first member of your congregation ordained in this way? Trace back
through time and see. If you cannot prove a direct and unbroken link to the Apostles
then you are being lied to and you are being taken for a fool.
Are you a fool?
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