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Watchtower's Gov Body & Another Promise! Part #1
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Borked Pseudo Mailed
2005-12-02 07:41:47 UTC
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The Last Generation
The Watchtower's newest light that points to the end by the year
2005

C Schatz MM Outreach
http://www.jwinfoline.com
The Watchtower's newest light that points to the end by the
year 2005
The Watchtower's promises

to the Great Crowd runs its course in 2005

What are Jehovah's Witnesses waiting for?

Jehovah's Witnesses have been on the edge of their seats waiting
for an event that has been promised to them by the Watchtower
Bible and Tract Society. The Watchtower has made a bold promise
to a generation of their followers since 1935 and this promise
has caused their followers to put their full trust in an
organization that claims to speak for God. The promise that
Jehovah's Witnesses today are clinging tenaciously to is the
promise that the 'great crowd' of Jehovah's Witnesses that had
its beginning in 1935 will be the generation of Jehovah's
Witnesses who survive Armageddon and enter alive into the new
earth. They will be the only ones who will be fully human as we
know it today. According to the Watchtower this special group of
Jehovah's Witnesses that God has been gathering since 1935 will
be the only people brought alive into the new earth who will be
capable of marriage, capable of having sexual relations and
capable of producing children. Everyone else will have died and
be resurrected on the new earth but their resurrection will make
them incapable of marriage, incapable of having sex and
incapable of producing offspring. Revelation, It's Grand Climax
at Hand, 1988 pg 128 says, You of the great crowd will be unique
among mankind as the "millions" that did not even have to die!
Yes the Watchtower has indeed made the 'great crowd' a unique
and special group that has existed since 1935. Their promises
have been very bold and specific as they claim God allowed them
to identify in 1935 the special group destined to enter the new
earth alive.

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How does the Watchtower define the 'great crowd'?


To be certain what the Watchtower means by the term the 'great
crowd' let's look at the April 15, 1995 Watchtower on page 31
where the question is asked about the difference between the
'other sheep' and the 'great crowd'. The article defines the
term 'other sheep' as true Christians who are not of the
heavenly class or 'little flock'. The 'great crowd' is also of
the 'other sheep' but they are a specific group that has been
given the promise of surviving Armageddon. The Watchtower says,
So the "great crowd" is composed of those who come out of, or
survive, the great tribulationÂ…In summary, we might remember
"other sheep" as the broader term, encompassing all of God's
servants having the hope of living forever on earth. It includes
the more limited category of sheeplike ones today who are being
gathered as a "great crowd" with the hope of living right
through the impending great tribulation. Most of those loyal
Christians alive today are of the "other sheep," and they are
part of the "great crowd" as well.

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Does the Watchtower claim this is God's interpretation?

Does the Watchtower claim that the 'new light' about the
generation that started in 1935 is their own interpretation of
the 'great crowd'? Or does the Watchtower claim that a brilliant
sparkling light from God revealed the generation of people
destined by God himself to be the ones who will enter alive into
the new earth following the destruction of Armegeddon? The
answer to this question is found in the Watchtower's Revelation
Its Grand Climax At Hand on pages 119-129. On page 119 in the
box at the bottom, the Society says that Interpretations Belong
to God. They say that it is only when the fulfillment is due
that the correct interpretation is given by God.

How did this happen in 1935? One page 122 under the heading
Confirming the Identity of the Great Crowd, they say, How can we
state so positively that the great crowd is this modern-day
group of dedicated Christians who hope to live forever on God's
earth? This follows their statement on page 120 that, The
understanding of Revelation 7:9-17 was now about to burst forth
in all its sparkling brilliance. On page 120 the scene
describing the revelation of the 'great crowd' is described.
They say, The Watchtower magazine had repeatedly expressed the
hope that a convention scheduled for May 30 to June 3, 1935, in
Washington, D.C., U.S.A., would be "a real comfort and benefit"
to those pictured by Jehonadab. That it proved to be! In a
stirring talk on "The Great Multitude," delivered to about
20,000 conventioners, J. F. Rutherford, president of the Watch
Tower Society, gave Scriptural proof that the modern-day other
sheep are identical with that great crowd of Revelation 7:9.

At the climax of this talk, the speaker asked: "Will all those
who have the hope of living forever on the earth please stand?"
As a large part of the audience stood up, the president
declared: "Behold! The great multitude!" There was a hush,
followed by thunderous cheering. How elated was the John class-
and also the Jehonadab group! On the following day, 840 new
Witnesses were baptized, most of these professing to be of that
great crowd.

In the spring of 1935 a large portion of the 20,000 people in
attendance were told that they had been identified by God as the
'great crowd'. Of those 20,000 people the young adults in
attendance that day who were a mere 20 years old are now
approaching 90 years old in 2005, if they are even still alive.
Those that were in attendance that day who were 35 years old and
older are long dead and buried and the mere babies in their
mother's arms who were not even capable of standing on their own
two feet when asked who has the hope of living forever on the
earth will be turning 70 in the year 2005.
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Derek
2005-12-02 17:00:04 UTC
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Every new day that comes with the morning sun is another failed prophecy of
the WT&BTS.

They forecast the end donkeys ago. Several times, giving explicit dates in
black and white.

Every day is proof they are no more prophet than fly in the air.

However, I think what they really mean whe they say "prophet" is "PROFIT"

That seems to fit like a snug warm glove in the darkness of winter.
Expozem
2005-12-02 20:43:31 UTC
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Post by Derek
Every new day that comes with the morning sun is another failed prophecy of
the WT&BTS.
They forecast the end donkeys ago. Several times, giving explicit dates in
black and white.
## Not to mention they had hundreds of UNDERLINED scripture as proof! What
happened to all their PROOF??? :-D
Post by Derek
Every day is proof they are no more prophet than fly in the air.
## The JWs don't care. They can't let go of that dream of paradise the WTS
promised them. To admit the WTS/GB was 100% wrong every time means giving
up that live-forever fantasy.
Post by Derek
However, I think what they really mean whe they say "prophet" is "PROFIT"
That seems to fit like a snug warm glove in the darkness of winter.
## Or a comfy pair of slippers........

Expo........
From: ***@gmail.com (an Antonio L Santana NYM)
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Subject: A Max/ Roy Discovery was Re: Jabriol admits rape
Date: 13 Jul 2005 15:30:38 -0700
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did you consider it cheating, when your current husband sodmize you
grand child because he was black?
I bet it will say that you allowed your son to be butt-banged by a fromer
biker for cash. and you do know your ISP is now subject to a law
suit...
so did you cheat on your 2 former husbands...
The Woman is Angry because she was never accepted
by Jw's for 20 years, because she refused to legally marry the man she
it with, after two failure, and being nherself the victim of domestic
abuse in NYC. Her first husband busted her up so bad, that she has
brain scrambled. All because she would not make her man lunch.
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